Comments on: Apologetics Rocks Bloggernacle http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/ Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:45:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: john f. http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/#comment-8480 john f. Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:45:35 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=389#comment-8480 Thanks to all for an interesting and spirited discussion. There are other Bloggernacle fish for you all to fry, so I think the time is probably right to close the comments here. Again, thanks to all. Thanks to all for an interesting and spirited discussion. There are other Bloggernacle fish for you all to fry, so I think the time is probably right to close the comments here. Again, thanks to all.

]]> By: David http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/#comment-8471 David Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:11:59 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=389#comment-8471 I have to concur with most of Steve's comments. The perfectionist bar set by the scriptures and Brethren unfortunately collides with the demands of biology and the unprepared marital state most 20 somethings find themselves. The married and well off leaders today I believe are out of touch with the realities facing today's and tomorrow's youth. Celibacy while an ideal is difficult to adhere in todays distracting world of technology and distractions. We need more tolerance and love. I have to concur with most of Steve’s comments. The perfectionist bar set by the scriptures and Brethren unfortunately collides with the demands of biology and the unprepared marital state most 20 somethings find themselves.

The married and well off leaders today I believe are out of touch with the realities facing today’s and tomorrow’s youth. Celibacy while an ideal is difficult to adhere in todays distracting world of technology and distractions. We need more tolerance and love.

]]> By: Mike Parker http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/#comment-8460 Mike Parker Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:27:11 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=389#comment-8460 How about just one, Steve? If you're qualified to dismiss Nibley as a "naked emperor," then certainly you could cough up the name of one execrable thing he wrote that is evidence for your claim. You see, there are a lot of people -- Mormons and non-Mormons -- who read Nibley's stuff and think he was brilliant.* George MacRae, the (non-Mormon) former dean of the Harvard Divinity School, once remarked while hearing him lecture, "It is obscene for a man to know that much!" So I kind of have a hard time taking your dismissal of Nibley seriously. It would help if you actually presented some <i>reason</i> for dismissing him. I don't suspect you <i>have</i> one, but I'm willing to entertain your evidence. --- *Although certainly not perfect. How about just one, Steve? If you’re qualified to dismiss Nibley as a “naked emperor,” then certainly you could cough up the name of one execrable thing he wrote that is evidence for your claim.

You see, there are a lot of people — Mormons and non-Mormons — who read Nibley’s stuff and think he was brilliant.* George MacRae, the (non-Mormon) former dean of the Harvard Divinity School, once remarked while hearing him lecture, “It is obscene for a man to know that much!”

So I kind of have a hard time taking your dismissal of Nibley seriously. It would help if you actually presented some reason for dismissing him. I don’t suspect you have one, but I’m willing to entertain your evidence.

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*Although certainly not perfect.

]]> By: Steve EM http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/#comment-8450 Steve EM Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:29:47 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=389#comment-8450 Mike, Again, I'm a Nacle commenter, not some sycophantic student who will only comment on some limited scope you attempt to dictate. I've read plenty of Nibley's pedantic rubbish (he really could have used an editor). It was a long time ago. Not being a groupie, why would I remember the titles? Mike,
Again, I’m a Nacle commenter, not some sycophantic student who will only comment on some limited scope you attempt to dictate. I’ve read plenty of Nibley’s pedantic rubbish (he really could have used an editor). It was a long time ago. Not being a groupie, why would I remember the titles?

]]> By: Mike Parker http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/#comment-8449 Mike Parker Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:51:23 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=389#comment-8449 Steve EM's non-response (#93) to my request for Nibley titles he's actually read (#86) is clear evidence that he is not at all interested in dealing with evidence and arguments, but only in making broad generalizations and caricatures. Dan Peterson (#91) is right -- continuing this discussion with him is a waste of time. Steve EM’s non-response (#93) to my request for Nibley titles he’s actually read (#86) is clear evidence that he is not at all interested in dealing with evidence and arguments, but only in making broad generalizations and caricatures.

Dan Peterson (#91) is right — continuing this discussion with him is a waste of time.

]]> By: Steve EM http://www.bloggernacle.org/apologetics/#comment-8448 Steve EM Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:42:34 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=389#comment-8448 John, BYU isn't the church. Our activity rate for single twenty-somethings today is in the teens. Most of a generation has been kissed goodby. That's a generation who's babies won't be going the primary, etc. That means a smaller church. By the time the stats reflect the loss, the damage has been long done. John,
BYU isn’t the church. Our activity rate for single twenty-somethings today is in the teens. Most of a generation has been kissed goodby. That’s a generation who’s babies won’t be going the primary, etc. That means a smaller church. By the time the stats reflect the loss, the damage has been long done.

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