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		<title>By: Ivan Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/card-on-empire/#comment-28876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this is an &quot;older&quot; post, but right wing propoganda mill Entertainment Weekly has the Empire review online here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/book/0,6115,1562776_5_0_,00.html

It&#039;s brief, but it gets a B+.  Here&#039;s part of the review:
&lt;i&gt; Empire, a cautionary adventure about a second U.S. Civil War between liberals and conservatives, is a similarly blistering read. Card plots hard-boiled action just as well as Tom Clancy, and layers in character detail and dialogue you&#039;ll never find in a Jack Ryan novel. &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is an &#8220;older&#8221; post, but right wing propoganda mill Entertainment Weekly has the Empire review online here:<br />
<a href="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/book/0,6115,1562776_5_0_,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/book/0,6115,1562776_5_0_,00.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s brief, but it gets a B+.  Here&#8217;s part of the review:<br />
<i> Empire, a cautionary adventure about a second U.S. Civil War between liberals and conservatives, is a similarly blistering read. Card plots hard-boiled action just as well as Tom Clancy, and layers in character detail and dialogue you&#8217;ll never find in a Jack Ryan novel. </i></p>
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		<title>By: Ivan A. Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/card-on-empire/#comment-22503</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan A. Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark -

Well, to be somewhat fair, Card is conservative on abortion, gay marriage and a few other things.  

But a lot of the anger or misconceptions come from his political rhetoric.  If you read his essays at ornery.org, he doesn&#039;t pull punches and lets the vitrol towards the left roll.  He takes quite a few potshots at the right as well, but 80% of his political writings for the last 5+ years have been aimed at attacking the left for abandoning what he thinks should be the core of the Democratic party.

And he&#039;s not very nice about it - Card seems to have reached a point in his life where he no longer cares whether people think he is politically  reasonable or accomodating.

So I can see why many liberals, rather than see if his criticisms have any value, would prefer to lump him in with &quot;the wacko right&quot; since in a binary world view, that would be the only place they could put him without taking him seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark -</p>
<p>Well, to be somewhat fair, Card is conservative on abortion, gay marriage and a few other things.  </p>
<p>But a lot of the anger or misconceptions come from his political rhetoric.  If you read his essays at ornery.org, he doesn&#8217;t pull punches and lets the vitrol towards the left roll.  He takes quite a few potshots at the right as well, but 80% of his political writings for the last 5+ years have been aimed at attacking the left for abandoning what he thinks should be the core of the Democratic party.</p>
<p>And he&#8217;s not very nice about it &#8211; Card seems to have reached a point in his life where he no longer cares whether people think he is politically  reasonable or accomodating.</p>
<p>So I can see why many liberals, rather than see if his criticisms have any value, would prefer to lump him in with &#8220;the wacko right&#8221; since in a binary world view, that would be the only place they could put him without taking him seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Goble</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/card-on-empire/#comment-21514</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 04:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth, I agree with Clancy.  His early books were pretty good I thought.  Once Denver got nuked I thought the weren&#039;t worth reading.  Although I did like that Clark book about the CIA guy in the 60&#039;s.  I can&#039;t remember when that came out.

BTW - outside of the war on terrorism, isn&#039;t Card pretty much a Nibley-like Liberal?  He favors strong gun control, socialized health care, more welfare and a bunch else.  I don&#039;t quite understand how some pretty blatant liberals like say Lieberman are considered conservative.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth, I agree with Clancy.  His early books were pretty good I thought.  Once Denver got nuked I thought the weren&#8217;t worth reading.  Although I did like that Clark book about the CIA guy in the 60&#8242;s.  I can&#8217;t remember when that came out.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; outside of the war on terrorism, isn&#8217;t Card pretty much a Nibley-like Liberal?  He favors strong gun control, socialized health care, more welfare and a bunch else.  I don&#8217;t quite understand how some pretty blatant liberals like say Lieberman are considered conservative.  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: a random cougar</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/card-on-empire/#comment-21446</link>
		<dc:creator>a random cougar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just finished Empire a couple hours ago, I think that the reviews calling it a right-wing rant, etc., are pretty off base.  While there are a couple characters who don&#039;t think too highly of the Left, it really is more a cautionary tale about the dangers of extremism than anything else.  In fact, I thought that the main &quot;left&quot; character was the most developed and most likeable one in the book.

Style wise, definitely none of the brooding of Speaker for the Dead or the metaphysical discussions of Xenocide.  Its much closer to the his Shadow books than the rest of his writing, but it is much faster paced compared to everything else.

&gt;

And there&#039;s a Mormon President.  What more could you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just finished Empire a couple hours ago, I think that the reviews calling it a right-wing rant, etc., are pretty off base.  While there are a couple characters who don&#8217;t think too highly of the Left, it really is more a cautionary tale about the dangers of extremism than anything else.  In fact, I thought that the main &#8220;left&#8221; character was the most developed and most likeable one in the book.</p>
<p>Style wise, definitely none of the brooding of Speaker for the Dead or the metaphysical discussions of Xenocide.  Its much closer to the his Shadow books than the rest of his writing, but it is much faster paced compared to everything else.</p>
<p>&gt;</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s a Mormon President.  What more could you want?</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/card-on-empire/#comment-21392</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 19:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more reviews and other articles:

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72093-0.html?tw=wn_index_2

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=112906B

http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/11/30/orson_scott_card_confounds_the_far_left/

http://edwardwillett.blogspot.com/2006/11/orson-scott-card-interview.html

http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/main/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004577</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more reviews and other articles:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72093-0.html?tw=wn_index_2" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72093-0.html?tw=wn_index_2</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=112906B" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=112906B</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/11/30/orson_scott_card_confounds_the_far_left/" rel="nofollow">http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2006/11/30/orson_scott_card_confounds_the_far_left/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://edwardwillett.blogspot.com/2006/11/orson-scott-card-interview.html" rel="nofollow">http://edwardwillett.blogspot.com/2006/11/orson-scott-card-interview.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/main/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004577" rel="nofollow">http://www.hatrack.com/ubb/main/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004577</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/card-on-empire/#comment-21218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note, that right-wing neocon propoganda magazine &lt;em&gt;Entertainment Weekly &lt;/em&gt;gave &lt;em&gt;Empire&lt;/em&gt; a B+.

Review isn&#039;t online yet, though.  And I&#039;m too lazy to type in an excerpt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note, that right-wing neocon propoganda magazine <em>Entertainment Weekly </em>gave <em>Empire</em> a B+.</p>
<p>Review isn&#8217;t online yet, though.  And I&#8217;m too lazy to type in an excerpt.</p>
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