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		<title>By: Karl D.</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/knocking-on-the-door-of-the-top-25/#comment-16354</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff,

Not only is BYU #25 in the AP poll but they moved up to #17 in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2006/11/this_weeks_vegas_oddsmakers_to.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Oddsmaker top 25.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,</p>
<p>Not only is BYU #25 in the AP poll but they moved up to #17 in <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2006/11/this_weeks_vegas_oddsmakers_to.html" rel="nofollow">the Oddsmaker top 25.</a></p>
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		<title>By: queuno</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/knocking-on-the-door-of-the-top-25/#comment-16297</link>
		<dc:creator>queuno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Pac-10 -- The lack of interest in BYU is more due to BYU&#039;s non-status as a research institution.  This is fairly well documented.  The Cougarnet archive on Yahoogroups provides as much history hear (you probably have to go back a few years).

2.  So, how&#039;s that $50 million practice facility working out?  How many bowl victories have they won?

3.  I don&#039;t believe BYU has a dirty program.  I also don&#039;t think that every BYU booster is completely unscrupulous.  I have family members who have participated in varsity BYU athletics, other family members employed by BYU athletics, and other family members who give a ton of money to BYU athletics.  All of them agree that even in the best of cases, there are unscrupulous boosters who have the potential to cause problems.

4.  I believe because BYU football is so honest, at its core, coupled with the Honor Code, that BYU will never again crack the Top 10.

5.  Boston fans are as bad as Yankee fans.  Don&#039;t forget -- the most expensive World Series champion of all time was the big-spending Red Sox.

6.  The greatest thing about the 2004 World Series is that it completely ruined the only thing Red Sox fans had left to hang on to -- the Curse.  Now they are just another team that won the World Series -- and from recent history, virtually everyone is winning one.  Next year it&#039;s probably Cleveland&#039;s turn.  The Red Sox are now basically the Arizona Diamondbacks with a crappier ballpark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Pac-10 &#8212; The lack of interest in BYU is more due to BYU&#8217;s non-status as a research institution.  This is fairly well documented.  The Cougarnet archive on Yahoogroups provides as much history hear (you probably have to go back a few years).</p>
<p>2.  So, how&#8217;s that $50 million practice facility working out?  How many bowl victories have they won?</p>
<p>3.  I don&#8217;t believe BYU has a dirty program.  I also don&#8217;t think that every BYU booster is completely unscrupulous.  I have family members who have participated in varsity BYU athletics, other family members employed by BYU athletics, and other family members who give a ton of money to BYU athletics.  All of them agree that even in the best of cases, there are unscrupulous boosters who have the potential to cause problems.</p>
<p>4.  I believe because BYU football is so honest, at its core, coupled with the Honor Code, that BYU will never again crack the Top 10.</p>
<p>5.  Boston fans are as bad as Yankee fans.  Don&#8217;t forget &#8212; the most expensive World Series champion of all time was the big-spending Red Sox.</p>
<p>6.  The greatest thing about the 2004 World Series is that it completely ruined the only thing Red Sox fans had left to hang on to &#8212; the Curse.  Now they are just another team that won the World Series &#8212; and from recent history, virtually everyone is winning one.  Next year it&#8217;s probably Cleveland&#8217;s turn.  The Red Sox are now basically the Arizona Diamondbacks with a crappier ballpark.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/knocking-on-the-door-of-the-top-25/#comment-16279</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it came to pass today. &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/polls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BYU cracked the AP top 25&lt;/a&gt; after a long 4-year drought.  Congratulations  Cougs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it came to pass today. <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/polls" rel="nofollow">BYU cracked the AP top 25</a> after a long 4-year drought.  Congratulations  Cougs!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/knocking-on-the-door-of-the-top-25/#comment-15811</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
Let&#039;s not fight. You couldn&#039;t know how intimately involved in BYU athletics, football in particular, I once was. It does make me feel good watching the successes of others, kinda like watching your friends and family succeed. 
I can&#039;t imagine what costs to my good feelings you are talking about. Athletics are moral. Money is amoral. Finding revenue, a lot of revenue, through public demand in sports isn&#039;t just moral...it&#039;s smart. Of course it can go too far, and I take it that you feel that at BYU it already has. 
On a brighter note:
( Yankees fans also bug me...so we can build on that common ground).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
Let&#8217;s not fight. You couldn&#8217;t know how intimately involved in BYU athletics, football in particular, I once was. It does make me feel good watching the successes of others, kinda like watching your friends and family succeed.<br />
I can&#8217;t imagine what costs to my good feelings you are talking about. Athletics are moral. Money is amoral. Finding revenue, a lot of revenue, through public demand in sports isn&#8217;t just moral&#8230;it&#8217;s smart. Of course it can go too far, and I take it that you feel that at BYU it already has.<br />
On a brighter note:<br />
( Yankees fans also bug me&#8230;so we can build on that common ground).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/knocking-on-the-door-of-the-top-25/#comment-15676</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the suggestion Sam.  I&#039;ll consider doing that.

But, while you&#039;re feeling good about yourself because of the accomplishments of others (an odd reason for feeling good--maybe that&#039;s why I find Yankees fans so insufferable), it would be well to consider the cost at which that good feeling is purchased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the suggestion Sam.  I&#8217;ll consider doing that.</p>
<p>But, while you&#8217;re feeling good about yourself because of the accomplishments of others (an odd reason for feeling good&#8211;maybe that&#8217;s why I find Yankees fans so insufferable), it would be well to consider the cost at which that good feeling is purchased.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernacle.org/knocking-on-the-door-of-the-top-25/#comment-15670</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark B, 
Why are you even commenting on this thread which celebrates the achievement of &#039;suspected dirty business&#039;? Perhaps you could start your own about the immorality of big-college athletics?
But this is a poor place to push the point. Pehaps you should push it on a thread which is celebrating BYU-Idaho athletic achievements? Er...I mean, its academic ones?
Go BYU football! After 5 years of famine! Finally rewarding those longsuffering hearts who&#039;ve also suffered the success of thier rivals in the heights of their own despairs.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark B,<br />
Why are you even commenting on this thread which celebrates the achievement of &#8216;suspected dirty business&#8217;? Perhaps you could start your own about the immorality of big-college athletics?<br />
But this is a poor place to push the point. Pehaps you should push it on a thread which is celebrating BYU-Idaho athletic achievements? Er&#8230;I mean, its academic ones?<br />
Go BYU football! After 5 years of famine! Finally rewarding those longsuffering hearts who&#8217;ve also suffered the success of thier rivals in the heights of their own despairs&#8230;..</p>
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