Comments on: This Week in Religion and Science http://www.bloggernacle.org/this-week-in-religion-and-science/ Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:45:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: David L. http://www.bloggernacle.org/this-week-in-religion-and-science/#comment-32492 David L. Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:41:57 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=539#comment-32492 America and it's institutions serve the greater good of society when they all stick to doing what it is they do best. To have a theologian like Pat Robertson try to take to task a Stephen Hawking over the realities of the physical universe is ludricous and not worthy of discussion. The pilgrims landed here centuries ago and yet their witch burning, scarlet letter climate still permeates and strangles free and informed scientific thought. Fast forward to today and our modern day witches are the very lettered and academic elite who find themselved ducking for cover whenever they seek to push the scientific and natural world envelope. The fact that Darwin is dismissed even today is depressing commentary on how far we really haven't gone and how the self righteous believing public continues to bully and intimidate bona fide scientific realities. Churches and Universities should not be adversaries with the government and politics caught in the middle of deciding what special interests to give credence to and at what cost to the secular and believing tax paying public. It gets back to the basic principles of seperation of Church and State. America and it’s institutions serve the greater good of society when they all stick to doing what it is they do best. To have a theologian like Pat Robertson try to take to task a Stephen Hawking over the realities of the physical universe is ludricous and not worthy of discussion.

The pilgrims landed here centuries ago and yet their witch burning, scarlet letter climate still permeates and strangles free and informed scientific thought. Fast forward to today and our modern day witches are the very lettered and academic elite who find themselved ducking for cover whenever they seek to push the scientific and natural world envelope.

The fact that Darwin is dismissed even today is depressing commentary on how far we really haven’t gone and how the self righteous believing public continues to bully and intimidate bona fide scientific realities.

Churches and Universities should not be adversaries with the government and politics caught in the middle of deciding what special interests to give credence to and at what cost to the secular and believing tax paying public.

It gets back to the basic principles of seperation of Church and State.

]]> By: Clark Goble http://www.bloggernacle.org/this-week-in-religion-and-science/#comment-32491 Clark Goble Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:26:09 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=539#comment-32491 Katonah, it seems to me that a philosopher would know exactly the tactics Harris would take and why they are flawed. Gary, I should have mentioned Darwin's birthday. It was probably at least as relevant as some of the things I did mention. Good catch. Katonah, it seems to me that a philosopher would know exactly the tactics Harris would take and why they are flawed.

Gary, I should have mentioned Darwin’s birthday. It was probably at least as relevant as some of the things I did mention. Good catch.

]]> By: Katonah http://www.bloggernacle.org/this-week-in-religion-and-science/#comment-32488 Katonah Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:00:16 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=539#comment-32488 Mr. Goble, I agree Andrew Sullivan isn't doing a stellar job in his debate with Sam Harris, but then wouldn't it be hard for any theologian to debate Sam Harris. Harris insists on debating about things which can be proved. That would put all theology outside the scope of any meaningful debate. It personally makes me sad to see an intelligent person struggling to rationalize the irrational. We may disagree about what is irrational, but it is something like art, indefinable in its essentials, but one knows it when one sees it. It is my opinion - uninformed of course - that theologians can and should only debate with philosophers and other theologians. For a theologian to debate with a scientist, or even a mathematician, (no insult intended- mathematicians are to me the quintessential mysterious people) is the debaters version of an oxymoron. Mr. Goble,

I agree Andrew Sullivan isn’t doing a stellar job in his debate with Sam Harris, but then wouldn’t it be hard for any theologian to debate Sam Harris. Harris insists on debating about things which can be proved. That would put all theology outside the scope of any meaningful debate. It personally makes me sad to see an intelligent person struggling to rationalize the irrational. We may disagree about what is irrational, but it is something like art, indefinable in its essentials, but one knows it when one sees it.

It is my opinion – uninformed of course – that theologians can and should only debate with philosophers and other theologians. For a theologian to debate with a scientist, or even a mathematician, (no insult intended- mathematicians are to me the quintessential mysterious people) is the debaters version of an oxymoron.

]]> By: R. Gary http://www.bloggernacle.org/this-week-in-religion-and-science/#comment-32487 R. Gary Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:14:38 +0000 http://www.bloggernacle.org/?p=539#comment-32487 Mormondom basically forgot about the 198th anniversary Charles Darwin's birth. DMI Dave notes that the sectarian world celebrated <a href="http://mormoninquiry.typepad.com/mormon_inquiry/2007/02/evolution_sunda.html" rel="nofollow">Evolution Sunday</a> earlier this week. Unfortunately, however, Dave again missapplies the oft-quoted 1931 First Presidency snippet which doesn't refer to Darwin or evolution at all, but simply warns against <a href="http://ndbf.blogspot.com/2007/01/thomas-s-monson-on-science-and-faith.html" rel="nofollow">allowing science to modify faith</a>. Mormondom basically forgot about the 198th anniversary Charles Darwin’s birth. DMI Dave notes that the sectarian world celebrated Evolution Sunday earlier this week. Unfortunately, however, Dave again missapplies the oft-quoted 1931 First Presidency snippet which doesn’t refer to Darwin or evolution at all, but simply warns against allowing science to modify faith.

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